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Episode #54 of the FRiNGEcasting With Wayne And Dan online radio podcast:
> We discuss FRiNGE, season 2, episode 22 – “Over There part-1”.
> Shared more great listener thoughts and theories.
> Played Scott Hertzog’s “FRiNGE Quote Of The Week”.
> Kevin Bachelder recommends reading PopMatters.com’s article comparing FRiNGE and X-Files.
> Question: Do the people in the alternate universe generally seem happier than their counterparts on our side? Let us know what you think, by calling (904) 469-7469 or leaving a reply in the Comments section here. Thank you.
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Yes they seem happier,but how happy can they really be with their shoot first ask ?’s later attitude. My ? is ,Who has the better tech our Walterverse or the Alterverse. my vote is our side but im biased
Hi, just wanted to let you know that the song The Candyman was from the 1971 version of Willy Wonka. Not from the late 60’s. Yes, I’m old enough to remember, I even used my baby brother as an excuse to repeatedly see the movie. However, I don’t remember any controversy connected with the song since it was simply from a kid’s movie. Here is the Wiki listing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Candy_Man
It was written by Anthony Newley who didn’t like the movie or the Davis versions and even offered to perform it himself in the movie but was turned down(unfortunately) The song hit the top of the charts in 1972.
Hope this helps.
Sorry I commented in the wrong episode comment section at first.. In Over There I believe AlterAstrid is a cyborg. Her response to Boyles and the super fast calculating kind of spooked me. I don’t care for Alter Walter but I do wonder if he removed the piece of the machinery to prevent it from being used. I still think he caused the death of too many innocent people to be a good man. We shall see.
Lawless, as far as “Who has better tech?” I agree, and am also siding with our Universe and our Walter Bishop (as seemingly confused he is). Thank you yet again for leaving comments here in the FRiNGEcasting shownotes! I greatly appreciate it!
Hi Brenda. Thank you for leaving some FRiNGE comments here in the FRiNGEcasting With Wayne And Dan shownotes. Also, thanks for the Candy Man wikipedia link! Who would’ve thought there would be a Wiki entry for the Candy Man song?!! I’ll share some of the info, and your post, on the next FRiNGEcasting show. When I first saw Willy Wonka, it was presented as a kids movie. But when leaving the theatre, it just struck me as being subversive in some bizarre way (and I was only 10 at the time). Something just creeped me out. Maybe it was Gene WIlder’s brilliant portrayal of WIlly Wonka.
No worries on the “wrong” episode comments section Kathy. Thank you for making use of the shownotes comments section for the “FRiNGEcasting Question Of The Week”! Alter-Astrid a possible cyborg? Interesting. Yeah, that whole interaction between her and alter Broyles was very mechanical. So far, Alter Walter is not very likable at all (I agree totally with you Kathy). However, Alter Mrs.Bishop is friendly and likable, at least to Peter.
Alter-USA Map and info located here: http://scifiwire.com/2010/05/secrets-of-the-alternate.php
Geoff, thanks so much for posting the link to that article about the alternate United States map, for everyone to find here in the FRiNGEcasting With Wayne And Dan shownotes! Nice job. The FRiNGE producers sure gave us a lot of great Easter Eggs in this map. I feel bad for the alternate version of California. Half of California must’ve fallen into the ocean, like so many jokes say will happen when The Big earthquake hits. I’m not sure what the implications of the map are, but it’s cool to ponder.
Wayne,
Did you notice the tie-in with VALIS by PKD? In the book, Horselover Fat could see see alternate timelines overlaid with the current one, very similar to how Brandon at Massive Dynamic said the two universes are overlaid. Thought it was cool.
Andy, I didn’t catch that Valis tie-in, but should have! I love so many of Philip K Dick’s great novels. Thanks for sharing that catch Andy!!
We’ve almost reached the finale, which makes me nostalgic. Since the Jacksonville episode – secret of Peter’s past being revealed to Olivia – there was tension being built up surrounding all the relationships in the Fringe-universe. For such a closely-knit crew, Fringe division definitely has had its skeleton in the closet, which made the focus of the whole series at the end of season two shift partially from the fringe sciences and the unthinkable to how do we find our own place in life.
I shall make a tiny LOST reference – just as Jacob said none of the flight 815 passengers stranded on the Island had a wholesome existence, all of them were looking for answers, by the same token Peter is trying to make sense of his past. I believe he’d make a great candidate. Olivia lost one of the few, if not the only person she loved dearly and trusted, her anchor in constant migration in life, all she’s got left is her sister and this family-like unit with Bishops. Looking at her alter-version probably made her realize just how much she missed John, and how devoted she had been to federal service. Walter lost his sanity in St Claire’s, and everyone important to him. When we’ve seen how different life is in the alt-verse the contrast becomes striking.
I’m not saying they’re happier – we can’t know what’s inside alternate versions’ hearts, people tend to hide their pain. It’s just that we needed those family moments, Northwest Passage episodes and bedroom scenes to show where those characters we’ve been following for the past seasons stand in their lives, what relationships matter to them, which of them they’ve lost and treasure.
To my mind we’re heading for emotional overload in the finale, it should clear the horizon.
ps. I’ll be sure to call in after the finale 🙂
Justine, thanks so much for all of the great FRiNGE comments you posted here in the shownotes. I’ll share them on FRiNGEcasting this week, when we record Saturday morning, her in Southern California.
Cheers,
Wayne